Is God the Father the Creator, the Trinity as a whole or are there three Creators?

· Christianity, CHRISTIANITY, Islam
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Let me start this presentation with a few verses of the Holy Quran, which are a lighthouse on the issue of there being One Creator, God the Father or Allah:

To Him belongs whosoever is in the heavens and the earth. And those who are in His presence do not disdain to worship Him, nor do they weary;they glorify Him night and day; and they flag not. Have they taken gods from the earth who raise the dead or create animal and plant life? (All life forms existed before Jesus was born). If there had been in them (the heavens and the earth) other gods besides Allah, then surely both would have gone to ruin (there would have been no consistency in laws of nature). Glorified then be Allah, the Lord of the Throne, above what they attribute. He cannot be questioned as to what He does, but they will be questioned. Have they taken gods besides Him? Say, ‘Bring forth your proof. Here is the Book of those with me, and the Book of those before me.’ Nay, most of them know not the truth, and so they turn away. (Al Quran 21:20-25)

Bait and switch is commonly employed consciously or unconsciously by the Christian apologists to defend all their dogma. They present the proofs and need of One God and then sell to the naive three persons in one being of Trinity, without offering any proof for the Triune God. Christianity cannot make up its mind. One moment Jesus is subordinate to God; in the next Christian story he is co-equal to God (trinity), and finally he is God and then God incarnate. If Jesus is co-equal to God, how come he did not create anything and God the Father had to do all the creative work, according to most verses of the Old and the New Testament? However, if we look at all the verses in the New Testament on this issue a confusing picture emerges. Unlike the contradictory account of Christianity and the Bible, the Holy Quran presents a clear understanding of One God who is the Creator of everything around us: “He is Allah, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.” (Al Quran 59:25) And: He (Allah) has created the heavens without any pillars that you can see, and He has placed in the earth firm mountains that it may not quake with you, and He has scattered therein all kinds of creatures; and We have sent down water from the clouds, and caused to grow therein every noble species. This is the creation of Allah. Now show me what others besides Him have created. Nay, but the wrongdoers are in manifest error. (Al Quran 31:11-12) According to Trinitarian Christianity, Jesus is co-equal, co-existent and co-eternal with God the Father; this is what the Holy Quran has refuted in the verses quoted above. The challenge and logic is simple and very lucid, if Jesus is co-equal to God, show us what did he create?  The Holy Quran states:

“Blessed is He (Allah) Who has sent down the Discrimination to His servant, that he may be a Warner to all the worlds — He to Whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. And He has taken unto Himself no son, and has no partner in the kingdom, and has created everything, and has ordained for it its proper measure.  Yet they have taken besides Him gods, who create nothing but are themselves created, and who have no power to harm or benefit themselves and they control not death nor life nor resurrection.” (Al Quran 25:2-4)

The Christian apologists present evidence for a Creator and assume the necessity of the Christian God.  But, the Triune Christian God does not exist.  Christianity is sandwiched between Judaism and Islam and both are Unitarian.  The tradition of Deism developed by the Founding Fathers of USA would also point to one God who is not Triune.  The scientific tradition if properly understood would also suggest one Creator with one will as understood by Deism:
Before we proceed further, let us refresh our memory about the official Nicene Creed, the basic creed of all the Trinitarian Christians.  As it is counter-intuitive, it would be fair to assume that not only non-Christians but most Christians will not remember the creed either.  So, here it is:

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

Who, for us men and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

The Creed defines God the Father as the Maker of heaven and earth, but quickly muddles the water by suggesting that Jesus is of the same substance as God the Father.  So, may be there are two creators, but not so fast!  We are soon told that the Holy Ghost is the Lord and Giver of Life.  So, after reading the Creed we are not any wiser and the question remains, is there one Creator, or two or three working in tandem?  Let us start the task at hand, how many created our universe, our earth and life on our planet?
The contradictions inherent in Trinity have been rationalized over the centuries by the clergy and the Christian laity and they may be blind to the innate irrationality in the dogma.  However, with the increasing awareness of all in the 21st century about science and the study of the nature, debates about Evolution and Creationism, documentary channels like Science, Discovery and A&E, it is timely to point to our Christian brethren and sisters that the study of nature can lead them to One God of Judaism, Unitarian Christianity and Islam and give them a chance to shed away the religious, emotional and psychological conflict of three persons and one being!
A powerful proof for there being only One Creator and not three is the fact that all life forms on our planet earth share a common genetic code, reflecting One Author and not multiple.  Prof. Richard Dawkins explains that there is only one genetic code, as he writes commentary on the last paragraph of Sir Charles Darwin’s legendary book, On the Origin of Species:

The genetic code is universal, all but identical across animals, plants, fungi, bacteria, archaea and viruses. The 64- word dictionary, by which three ­letter DNA words are translated into twenty amino acids and one punctuation mark, which means ‘start reading here’ or ‘stop reading here’, is the same 64-word dictionary wherever you look in the living kingdoms (with one or two exceptions too minor to undermine the generalization). If, say, some weird, anomalous microbes called the harumscaryotes were discovered, which didn’t use DNA at all, or didn’t use proteins, or used proteins but strung them together from a different set of amino acids from the familiar twenty, or which used DNA but not a triplet code, or a triplet code but not the same 64-word dictionary – if any of these conditions were met, we might suggest that life had originated twice: once for the harumscaryotes and once for the rest of life. …

Is it possible that two independent origins of life could both have hit upon the same 64-word code? Very unlikely. For that to be plausible, the existing code would have to have strong advantages over alternative codes, and there would have to be a gradual ramp of improvement towards it, a ramp for natural selection to climb up. Both these conditions are improbable. Francis Crick early suggested that the genetic code is a ‘frozen accident’, which, once in place, was difficult or impossible to change. The reasoning is interesting. Any mutation in the genetic code itself (as opposed to mutations in the genes that it encodes) would have an instantly catastrophic effect, not just in one place but throughout the whole organism. If any word in the 64-word dictionary changed its meaning, so that it came to specify a different amino acid, just about every protein in the body would instantaneously change, probably in many places along its length. Unlike an ordinary mutation, which might, say, slightly lengthen a leg, shorten a wing or darken an eye, a change in the genetic code would change everything at once, all over the body, and this would spell disaster. Various theorists have come up with ingenious suggestions for special ways in which the genetic code might evolve: ways in which, to quote one of their papers, the frozen accident might be ‘thawed’. Interesting as these are, I think it is all but certain that every living creature whose genetic code has been looked at is descended from one common ancestor. No matter how elaborate and different the high-level programs that underlie the various life forms, all are, at bottom, written in the same machine language.

Of course we cannot rule out the possibility that other machine languages may have arisen in yet other creatures that are now extinct — the equivalent of my harumscaryotes. And the physicist Puul Davies has made the reasonable point that we haven’t actually looked very hard to see if there are any harumscaryotes (he doesn’t use the word, of course) that are not extinct but still lurking in some extreme redoubt of our planet. He admits that it is not very likely, but argues — somewhat along the lines of the man who searches for his key. under a street lamp rather than where he lost them – that it is a lot easier and cheaper to look thoroughly on our planet than to travel to other planets and look there. Meanwhile, I don’t mind recording my private expectation that Professor Davies won’t find anything, and that all surviving life forms on this planet use the same machine code and are all descended from a single ancestor.[1]

There is only one machine language or genetic code talking of a Unity of only One Creator and not three persons and one being of Trinity! For Jesus to be equal or of same substance as God the Father, he needed to create something, some life forms, but none have been found and a consensus is building that there is an undeniable unity among all the life forms on our planet.  Jesus did not create anything at least not on our planet!
The doctrine of the Trinity states that Christ is co-equal and co-eternal with the Father.  However, if we go by Genesis alone then God the Father created everything and Jesus and the Holy Ghost did not create anything, so by definition they cannot be co-equal to God the Father.
Even within the tradition of Christianity there is strong and at times over whelming evidence of Unitarianism of Judaism and Islam.  In the first four centuries Unitarian Christians were in greater numbers compared to Trinitarian Christians.  The history of so called heresy of Arianism is strong pointer towards the Unitarian roots of early Christianity.  But, as history is written by the victors, followers of Arianism came to be known as heretics.
Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the Founder of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community wrote, “The God of Islam is the same God Who is visible in the reflection of the laws of nature and is discernible in the book of nature. Islam has not presented a new God but has presented the same God Who is presented by the light of man’s heart, by the conscience of man, and by heaven and earth.”[2]  In other words an honest and rational study of nature with an open mind should lead a Trinitarian Christian to Unitarianism.
The issue of who is the Creator is conveniently left somewhat elusive in the Christian literature, by using different words with different meanings interchangeably, to confuse the masses, as they bank on the Jewish or the Muslim understanding of God in their daily lives and academic pursuits. However, the underlying conflict, of three persons in one being, reveals itself now and then. According to Encyclopedia Britannica:

“The Holy Spirit is one of the most elusive and difficult themes in Christian theology, because it refers to one of the three persons in the Godhead but does not evoke concrete images the way ‘Father’ or ‘Creator’ and ‘Son’ or ‘Redeemer’ do. A characteristic view of the Holy Spirit is sketched in The Gospel According to John: the outpouring of the Holy Spirit takes place only after the Ascension of Christ; it is the beginning of a new time of salvation, in which the Holy Spirit is sent as the Paraclete (Counsellor) to the church remaining behind in this world. The phenomena described in John, which are celebrated in the church at Pentecost, are understood as the fulfillment of this promise. With this event (Pentecost), the church entered into the period of the Holy Spirit.”[3]
God the Father is ‘the Creator,’ in the Christian tradition, Jesus is ‘the Redeemer’ and the Holy Ghost, serves its multiple roles. As one examines this issue, one should remember, within mainstream Christianity the Holy Spirit is one of the three persons of the Trinity, as such he is personal and also fully God, co-equal and co-eternal with God the Father and Son of God, and the Son is of the same substance as God the Father.
Nicene Creed is followed by all the Trinitarian Churches, giving rise to very interesting inferences on so many different levels. Here, what is relevant to us is that Jesus Christ is, allegedly, the physical manifestation of Logos (or the divine word) and consequently possesses all of the inherent, ineffable perfections which religion and philosophy attribute to the Supreme Being. This is a tall claim but where is the proof, let me repeat the Quranic challenge, did Jesus create anything in the Universe?
Wikipedia states under the heading Homoousian, and this information is common place in Christian literature if one makes a little effort:
“Origen seems to have been the first ecclesiastical writer to use the word ‘homoousios’ in a Trinitarian context, but it is evident in his writings that he considered the Son’s divinity lesser than the Father’s, since he even calls the Son a creature. It was by Athanasius and the Nicene Synod that the Son was taken to have exactly the same nature or essence with the Father, and at the Nicene Creed the Son was declared to be as immutable as his Father is. Some theologians preferred the use of the term ὁμοιούσιος (homoioúsios, from ὅμοιος, hómoios, ‘similar’ rather than ὁμός, homós, ‘same’) in order to emphasize distinctions among the three persons in the Godhead, but the term homoousios became a consistent mark of Nicene orthodoxy in both East and West. According to this doctrine, Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of Logos (or the divine word) and consequently possesses all of the inherent, ineffable perfections which religion and philosophy attribute to the Supreme Being. Three distinct and infinite minds or substances, three co-equal and eternal realities, participate in (or share) the same, single Divine Essence (ousia).”
If Jesus and the Holy Ghost are of the same essence as God the Father,  did they create anything? In evading this question, the Christian theologians, philosophers and scientists are yielding to the Jewish and the Islamic understanding of the Transcendent God, and borrowing their concepts without any acknowledgement. Imitation is the best form of flattery! If God the Father is the only Creator then how is Jesus co-equal and possessing of all of the inherent, ineffable perfections and of the same substance? One cannot have one’s cake and eat it too!
Italy. Trinity, c. 15th century C.E.[4]

Say O Prophet, ‘Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?’ Say, ‘Allah.’ Say, ‘Have you then taken besides Him helpers who have no power for good or harm even for themselves?’ Say, ‘Can the blind and the seeing be equal? Or, can darkness be equal to light? Or, do they assign to Allah partners who have created the like of His creation so that the two creations appear similar to them?’ Say, ‘Allah alone is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Most Supreme.’ (Al Quran 13:17)

Lest, the nay sayers may think that they can easily resolve the issues that I present here, let me add some other details here. At one time the Holy Spirit was also the official ‘giver of life.’

Filioque, Latin for ‘and (from) the Son,’ was added in Western Christianity to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, commonly referred to as the Nicene Creed. This insertion emphasizes that Jesus, the Son, is of equal divinity with God, the Father, while the absence of it in Eastern Christianity concentrates on the Father.
Et in Spiritum Sanctum, Dominum, et vivificantem: qui ex Patre Filioque procedit.
(And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.)
The word ‘Filioque’ was first added at the Third Council of Toledo (589) and spread throughout Western Christianity. It has been an ongoing source of conflict between the East and West, contributing to the East-West Schism of 1054 and proving an obstacle to attempts to reunify the two sides.
Even the Holy Spirit is ‘giver of life,’ it proceeds from both God the Father and Jesus Christ, in the Western tradition, yet we do not find any evidence of Jesus having created anything in the Nature.  The fact of the matter is that Jesus or the Holy Spirit did not create anything in the universe! I rest my case, against the irrationality of Trinity.
The dogma of Trinity can be understood properly only in its evolution over centuries, for references and the Council of Nicaea and three others, go to:
The paradox par excellence of Trinity, affectionately called a mystery, just does not stop giving rise to contradictions.  Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad writes in his book Christianity a journey from fact to fiction:

“We do not observe any role played by the Holy Ghost in the divine plan of creation and also for that matter Jesus Christ.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. (Genesis 1:1)

Obviously it is God the Father who is referred to in the Old Testament without any hint of a reference to Christ or the Holy Ghost. In the entire pre-Christian era, among all the Jews who believed in the Old Testament and must have heard this verse hundreds of thousands of times, there was not one who could read the name of Christ in the creation of the Universe or that of the Holy Ghost. In his Gospel, St. John suggests ‘Word’ to stand for Jesus. It is strange that such an important subject has been taken up by author of only one Gospel; by someone who was not even a disciple of Jesus.1 Even if one accepts his word to be the word of God, still it can only be understood to mean the Will of God; a concept that is common to many religions with reference to Creation.

Surprisingly, the age long secret of Christ’s and the Holy Ghost’s participation in the Creation, remained a secret to Jesus himself. We read not a single statement of Jesus Christ where he claims to be the Word. Therefore, neither had any part to play in the shaping and making of Creation. Again it was God the Father alone, we are told, who fashioned man from dust with his own hands. I have never read anywhere in any Christian writings that the two hands belonged to Jesus and the Holy Ghost. Hence God created everything without the slightest help from, or participation of, Jesus or the Holy Ghost. Were they passive observers generally in agreement with what God was doing or did they actually participate? If the latter is more acceptable to Christian theologists then immediately the question arises whether each of them was individually capable of creating, without the help of the others, or were they only capable in their totality. And again, if all three were essentially needed to pool their functions together to create, then was their share equal, or did one have a larger share of the labour put into the process of creation? Were they three persons with different powers both in intensity and kind or did they share them equally? One has to admit that whichever of the two options is taken, each of the components of Trinity becomes incompetent to create anything in itself.

If the same argument is extended to other Divine functions, the same question will continue to plague the Christian theologists. At the end of the day Christianity will have to admit that it does not believe in one simple entity of God, with three aspects and expressions of one single central power and majesty. But rather that they believe in three complementary components of Godhead that are three segments of the body of God. The question of being equal or unequal would then be assigned a relatively minor status.

Take, for instance, the attribute of Justice and Forgiveness. The Son appears to be more compassionate whereas God the Father appears to be less Just than the Holy Ghost, who took no part in the injustice on the part of God the Father.

The second possibility we mentioned was that Jesus and the Holy Ghost played an inert role in the processes of creation and the government of the laws of nature. That being so, it raises many other questions. First of all what is the assigned role of the two partners of God in the discharging of their Divine functions? If they are passive silent observers, like sleeping partners, then they are automatically relegated to a secondary, inferior position where they coexist with God but without, in practicality, sharing His powers. This concept of God having two non-functional appendices is very bizarre to say the least. I wonder whose conscience it can satisfy.”[5][6][5]

Now I present a table from a website listing all the references on the issue of God and His creation, from the Bible.[7]
Countless references can be cited from the New Testament, wherein Jesus will acknowledge that he did not create and he is not the Creator, here is an example:

When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (Matthew 19:1-6)

Who is the Creator of All Creation?

 

Creation God Jehovah Christ Holy Spirit
Everything Gen. 1:31

Neh. 9:6

John 1:3

Light Gen. 1:3 Is. 45:7
Heaven and Earth Gen. 1:1

Gen. 2:4

2Kg. 19:15
Heavens 1Ch. 16:26

Worlds Heb. 11:3 Heb. 1:2
Earth Is. 40:28, 45:18

Ps. 90:2

Land Gen. 1:7 Jonah 1:9
Sea Acts 4:24, 14:15

Jonah 1:9
Mountains Amos 4:13
Wind Amos 4:13
Celestial Bodies Gen. 1:16
Every Creature Gen. 1:21

Man Gen. 1:27

Gen. 2:7, 8

Job 33:4
Spirit of Man Zec. 12:1
Woman Mark 10:6

Gen. 2:22
Plants Gen. 1:11 Gen. 2:9
Beasts Gen. 1:24

Gen. 2:9, 19

Birds Gen. 1:21 Gen. 2:9
One Creator: Malachi 2:10 2 Kings 19:15

John 1:3

There is no clear answer from the Bible, it is all jumbled up between the God the Father and Jesus:

In Mark chapter 10 Jesus gives the credit of creation of mankind to God the Father and does not claim it for himself:

Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them.

Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”

“What did Moses command you?” he replied.

They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”

“It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. “But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (Mark 10:1-9)

For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. (Mark 13:19)

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3)

And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: (Acts 4:24)

And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: (Acts 14:15)

God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; (Acts 17:24)

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: (Ephesians 3:9)

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.(Colossians 1:16-17)

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (Hebrews 11:3)

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. (Revelation 4:11)

And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: (Revelation 10:6)

Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. (Revelation 14:7)

Epilogue

The Holy Quran presents a clear understanding of One Transcendent God.  The crown verse of the Holy Quran states:
“Allah — there is no God but He, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that will intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them burdens Him not; and He is the High, the Great.” (Al Quran 2:256)
The Messiah of this era and the lead follower of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad writes:
“God is the light of the heavens and the earth. Every light that is visible on the heights or in the valleys, whether in souls or in bodies, whether personal or impersonal, whether apparent or hidden, whether in the mind or outside it, is a bounty of His grace. This is an indication that the general grace of the Lord of the worlds envelops everything and nothing is deprived of that grace. He is the source of all grace, the ultimate cause of all lights and the fountainhead of all mercies. His Being is the support of the universe and is the refuge of all high and low. He it is Who brought everything out of the darkness of nothingness and bestowed upon everything the mantle of being.  No other being than Him is in himself present and eternal or is not the recipient of His grace. Earth and heaven, man and animals, stones and trees, souls and bodies, have all come into existence by His grace.”[8][9]
Christianity has banked on the force of propaganda and naivety of the masses rather than reason throughout its history and continues to do that. Even the enlightened 21st century scientists, coming from Christian background, who believe in God do not ponder over the simple realities brought forth in this knol. If we examine the Christian dogma, countless contradictions and even humorous implications keep emerging.

According to the Trinitarian Christian understanding, Jesus has two natures, one human and the second divine. The human was born in Middle East in 4 BC and somehow merged with the divine nature to give us one complete whole, the Jesus of Nazareth, who was put on cross in Jerusalem. So, the human and divine hybrid did not exist before 4 BC and therefore did not create anything before 4 BC, which would rule out most of the creative work in the universe. In other words, Jesus did not create anything, he is not co-equal or co-eternal to God the Father and hence he is not God, he is a Jewish prophet of God!

The only Transcendent God that the humans can reasonably conceptualize, in our age of science and information, is of the God of the Jewish prophets, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Jeremiah, and John the Baptist and Islam.  Let me conclude with a Quranic verse that links God’s unity with the fact that everything in our universe glorifies Him, the One God of Genesis, the Creator of everything around us, God the Father, called Allah in the Islamic terminology:

O People of the Book, exceed not the limits in your religion, and say not of Allah anything but the truth. Indeed, the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah and a fulfilment of His word which He sent down to Mary, and a mercy from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not ‘They are three.’ Desist, it will be better for you. Indeed, Allah is the only One God. Far is it from His Holiness that He should have a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And sufficient is Allah as a Guardian. (Al Quran 4:172)

References

  1. Prof. Richard Dawkins. The Greatest Show on Earth. Free Press, 2009. Page 409-410.
  2. Majmu‘a Ishtiharat, Vol. II, pp. 310-311. http://www.alislam.org/books/Essence-1.pdf
  3. “Christianity.” Encyclopædia Britannica. 2010. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 20 Aug. 2010 ca.com/EBchecked/topic/115240/Christianity>.
  4. http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_04.htm
  5. Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad. Christianity a journey from fact to fiction. Islam International Publications Limited, 1996. Pages 57-59.
  6. http://www.alislam.org/library/books/christianity_facts_to_fiction/index.html
  7. http://www.godandscience.org/cults/creator.html
  8. [Brahin-e-Ahmadiyya, Ruhani Khaza’in, Vol. 1, pp. 191-192, footnote]
  9. http://www.alislam.org/books/Essence-1.pdf
  10. Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad. Christianity a journey from fact to fiction. Islam International Publications Limited, 1996. Pages 57-59.

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  1. Zia H. Shah

    It is said that one third of the Holy Quran is about establishing the true concept of Monotheism. So, numerous verses can be quoted here and I will mention a few in the comment section here. Allah says:

    “O men, a similitude is set forth, so listen to it. Surely, those on whom you call instead of Allah cannot create even a fly, though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they cannot recover it therefrom. Weak indeed are both the seeker and the sought.” (Al Quran 22:74)

    One of the best arguments in the Holy Quran, establishing that Allah cannot have a literal son, is the verse that highlights that Allah has no consort, so He cannot have a literal son. Allah says, “How can Allah have a son when He has no consort?” (Al Quran 6:102)

    This argument we had elaborate in one of our Alislam-eGazettes:

    http://www.alislam.org/egazette/eGazette-Nov2008.pdf

    Another verse in the Holy Quran highlights the material needs of humans contrasted with the Transcendent nature of God:

    “The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger; surely, Messengers like unto him had indeed passed away before him. And his mother was a truthful woman. They both used to eat food. See how We explain the Signs for their good, and see how they are turned away.” (Al Quran 5:76)

    Both Mary and Jesus used to eat food and as such were human and not divine. Jesus needed food to live and anyone dependent on material things for his or her life cannot be co-equal to God; as God, according to scriptures, does not need material sustenance. God is truly Transcendent, beyond time, space and matter!

  2. Muhammad Zafrullah

    Your picture with this “comment” looks very good, Dr. Zia H. Shah.

  3. Zia H. Shah

    King David glorifying God the Creator, without knowing an iota about Jesus

    In the Psalms we can read time and again, how the King or the Prophet David glorifies, God the Creator or God the Father, without knowing anything about Jesus, as he preceeded him by seven centuries. David prays:

    LORD, our Lord,
    how majestic is your name in all the earth!
    You have set your glory
    in the heavens.
    Through the praise of children and infants
    you have established a stronghold against your enemies,
    to silence the foe and the avenger.
    When I consider your heavens,
    the work of your fingers,
    the moon and the stars,
    which you have set in place,
    What is mankind that you are mindful of them,
    human beings that you care for them?

    (Psalm 8:1-4, New International Version)

    So, what I want to suggest for my Christian readers is that to know God, we do not need to necessarily know about Jesus Christ and he forms no part of Divinity, as we can see His Majesty in the prayers of David, without any reference to Jesus!

  4. Zia H. Shah

    Thank you for your kind words, Muhammad Zafrullah, in the above comment.

    We will look forward to your continued input and comments in the Muslim Times.

    Best Regards!

  5. Zia H. Shah

    Bait and switch a common Christian strategy
    Bait and switch is commonly employed consciously or unconsciously by the Christian apologists to defend all their dogma, they present the proofs and need of One God and then sell to the naive three persons in one being of Trinity, without offering any proof for the Triune God. For example, recently the Pope Benedict XVI made some news, about the need of a Creator and then implied a Triune God without any evidence for that. It was reported:

    God’s mind was behind complex scientific theories such as the Big Bang, and Christians should reject the idea that the universe came into being by accident, Pope Benedict said.

    “The universe is not the result of chance, as some would want to make us believe,” Benedict said on the day Christians mark the Epiphany, the day the Bible says the three kings reached the site where Jesus was born by following a star.

    “Contemplating it (the universe) we are invited to read something profound into it: the wisdom of the creator, the inexhaustible creativity of God,” he said in a sermon to some 10,000 people in St Peter’s Basilica on the feast day.

    While the pope has spoken before about evolution, he has rarely delved back in time to discuss specific concepts such as the Big Bang, which scientists believe led to the formation of the universe some 13.7 billion years ago.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110106/lf_nm_life/us_pope_bigbang

    This universe with its unifying principles speaks of one Creator and not three! This point has been argued in some detail in the following publication:

    http://www.alislam.org/egazette/eGazette-Nov2008.pdf

  6. Zia H. Shah

    Define Trinity please
    This is in response to Travis Rotenburger who has commented below. Please describe your understanding of Trinity in 3-4 paragraphs, so we can hold you to that concept and analyze your understanding.

    Please summarize your understanding and do not take an elusive stance which serves only the already converted or those who are indoctrinated in this dogma of Trinity that is a Paradox par Excellence!

    If you do not give us a succinct understanding of Trinity, your comments mount to no more than shifting sands and the usual convolution of Trinity one moment it is three and in another moment through some magical hand it is one.

    If this is hard to grasp, then let me make it easier. According to the Trinitarian Christian understanding, Jesus has two natures, one human and the second divine. The human was born in Middle East in 4 BC. So, the human and divine hybrid did not create any thing before 4 BC, which would rule out most of the creative work in the universe. In other words, Jesus did not create anything, he is not equal to God the Father, who created everything! QED

  7. Zia H. Shah

    The more you read about Trinity the more contradictory it becomes!
    I will quote the description from Encyclopedia Britannica to preserve it for the posterity:

    The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. Initially, both the requirements of monotheism inherited from the Hebrew Scriptures and the implications of the need to interpret the biblical teaching to Greco-Roman religions seemed to demand that the divine in Christ as the Word, or Logos, be interpreted as subordinate to the Supreme Being. An alternative solution was to interpret Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three modes of the self-disclosure of the one God but not as distinct within the being of God itself. The first tendency recognized the distinctness among the three, but at the cost of their equality and hence of their unity (subordinationism); the second came to terms with their unity, but at the cost of their distinctness as “persons” (modalism). It was not until the 4th century that the distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons.

    The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same substance [homoousios] as the Father,” even though it said very little about the Holy Spirit. Over the next half century, Athanasius defended and refined the Nicene formula, and, by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since. It is accepted in all of the historic confessions of Christianity, even though the impact of the Enlightenment decreased its importance.

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/605512/Trinity

    I was in a Church recently and the Pastor, who will remain nameless here, said that if she tries to articulate Trinity, she will get it wrong, as no one has succeeded in correctly articulating it. I wonder then why such insistence on sticking with it and not moving to Unitarian understanding. After all Unitarian Christians were in majority during the first four centuries of the common era, compared to the Trinitarians!

  8. Zia H. Shah

    Nicene creed and who is the Creator?
    I will quote the description and text of the creed from Encyclopedia Britannica and you do the math, whether one is equal to three or not and how the sophisticated algebra of Trinity developed over the centuries:

    Nicene Creed, also called Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, a Christian statement of faith that is the only ecumenical creed because it is accepted as authoritative by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and major Protestant churches. The Apostles’ and Athanasian creeds are accepted by some but not all of these churches.

    Until the early 20th century, it was universally assumed that the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed (the more accurate term) was an enlarged version of the Creed of Nicaea, which was promulgated at the Council of Nicaea (325). It was further assumed that this enlargement had been carried out at the Council of Constantinople (381) with the object of bringing the Creed of Nicaea up to date in regard to heresies about the Incarnation and the Holy Spirit that had risen since the Council of Nicaea.

    Additional discoveries of documents in the 20th century, however, indicated that the situation was more complex, and the actual development of the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed has been the subject of scholarly dispute. Most likely it was issued by the Council of Constantinople even though this fact was first explicitly stated at the Council of Chalcedon in 451. It was probably based on a baptismal creed already in existence, but it was an independent document and not an enlargement of the Creed of Nicaea.

    The so-called Filioque clause (Latin filioque, “and from the son”), inserted after the words “the Holy Spirit . . . who proceedeth from the Father,” was gradually introduced as part of the creed in the Western Church, beginning in the 6th century. It was probably finally accepted by the papacy in the 11th century. It has been retained by the Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Protestant churches. The Eastern churches have always rejected it because they consider it theological error and an unauthorized addition to a venerable document.

    The Nicene Creed was originally written in Greek. Its principal liturgical use is in the Eucharist in the West and in both Baptism and the Eucharist in the East. A modern English version of the text is as follows:

    We believe in one God,

    the Father, the Almighty,

    maker of heaven and earth,

    of all that is seen and unseen.

    We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,

    the only Son of God,

    eternally begotten of the Father,

    God from God, Light from Light,

    true God from true God,

    begotten, not made, one in Being with the

    Father.

    Through him all things were made.

    For us men and for our salvation

    he came down from heaven:

    by the power of the Holy Spirit

    he was born of the Virgin Mary, and

    became man.

    For our sake he was crucified under Pontius

    Pilate;

    he suffered, died, and was buried.

    On the third day he rose again

    in fulfillment of the Scriptures;

    he ascended into heaven

    and is seated on the right hand of the

    Father.

    He will come again in glory

    to judge the living and the dead,

    and his kingdom will have no end.

    We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the

    giver of life,

    who proceeds from the Father and the Son.

    With the Father and the Son he is worshipped

    and glorified.

    He has spoken through the Prophets.

    We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic

    Church.

    We acknowledge one baptism for the

    forgiveness of sins.

    We look for the resurrection of the dead,

    and the life of the world to come. Amen.

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/413955/Nicene-Creed

  9. Muhammad Zafrullah

    You don’t think your stuff through, do you? The answer to your King David comment (may peace be upon him) is: He (King David) was not privy to the information about Jesus (peace be upon him)nor about his status.
    Also (from Islamic point of view) King David did not mention a lot of attributes of God. That does not negate those attributes. The fact is that if you had used in full the refutation of Jesus’ deity status that I had provided you in an e-mail, there would be no need for that lengthy article and there would be no need for all these comments. As it stands your first comment is just part of what I sent you.

  10. Zia H. Shah

    As one third of the Holy Quran is about establishing true Monotheism, arguments and details on this issue are endless. I have several articles on the issue of Trinity and some I will link here:

    http://www.alislam.org/library/articles/Trinity-in-the-Holy-Quran-and-Bible-20080226MN.pdf

    The concept of Trinity has no legs to stand on:
    http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2011/11/religion/islam/the-concept-of-trinity-has-no-legs-to-stand-on

    Tertullian: responsible for coining the term Trinity:
    knol.google.com/k/tertullian-responsible-for-coining-the-term-trinity#

    The Council of Nicaea and three others:
    knol.google.com/k/the-council-of-nicaea-and-three-others#

  11. Muhammad Zafrullah

    Writing isn’t quoting/copying reams and reams of information. Writing is making sense. So do your research and write somethibg concise. In this day and age people do not have all that time to go through the stuff you put up.
    By the way you have not responded to my comment.

  12. Zia H. Shah

    A few verses of the Holy Quran, which are a lighthouse on the issue of there being One Creator

    To Him belongs whosoever is in the heavens and the earth. And those who are in His presence do not disdain to worship Him, nor do they weary;they glorify Him night and day; and they flag not. Have they taken gods from the earth who raise the dead or create animal and plant life? (All life forms existed before Jesus was born). If there had been in them (the heavens and the earth) other gods besides Allah, then surely both would have gone to ruin (there would have been no consistency in laws of nature). Glorified then be Allah, the Lord of the Throne, above what they attribute. He cannot be questioned as to what He does, but they will be questioned. Have they taken gods beside Him? Say, ‘Bring forth your proof. Here is the Book of those with me, and the Book of those before me.’ Nay, most of them know not the truth, and so they turn away. (Al Quran 21:20-25)

    Listen to Tarjamatul Quran class about these verses:

    http://www.alislam.org/quran/tarjumatul-quran/

  13. Zia H. Shah

    Einstein’s God according to Michael Shermer
    Albert Einstein famously opined, “God is cunning but He is not malicious.” And: “God does not play dice.” When asked his motivation for doing physics, Einstein replied: “I want to know how God created the world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.” In the final weeks of his life, when Einstein learned of the death of his old physicist friend Michele Besso, he wrote the Besso family: “He has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. For us believing physicists, the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubborn illusion.”

    What did Einstein mean by “God” playing dice, or “us believing physicists”? Was he speaking literally or metaphorically? Did he mean belief in the models of theoretical physics that make no distinction between past, present, and future? Did he mean belief in some impersonal force that exists above such time constraints? Was he just being polite and consoling to Besso’s family? Such is the enigma of the most well-known scientist in history whose fame was such that nearly everything he wrote or said was scrutinized for its meaning and import; thus, it is easy to yank such quotes out of context and spin them in any direction one desires.

    When he turned 50, Einstein granted an interview in which he was asked point-blank, do you believe in God? “I am not an atheist,” he began. “The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws.”

    That almost sounds like Einstein is attributing the laws of the universe to a god of some sort. But what type of god? A personal deity or some impersonal force? To a Colorado banker who wrote and asked him the God question, Einstein responded: “I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals or would sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation. My religiosity consists of a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we can comprehend about the knowable world. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.”

    http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/michael-shermer/einstein%E2%80%99s-god

    Shermer is painting a picture of Einstein being a deist, like President Thomas Jefferson and many of the Founding Fathers of USA. This is helpful as it defies the claim of some atheists that Einstein was one of them. Einstein denied Personal God but all his life continued a deep involvement with the Jewish tradition, so in some subtle ways he subscribed to the Personal God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aron, David, and Jeremiah.

    I have provided a more complete and detailed analysis of Einstein’s religion in a different article:

    http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2011/12/religion/albert-einsteins-search-for-god

    Once a seeker properly understands Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aron, David, and Jeremiah, he or she is ready to appreciate Jesus and Muhammad, in their true colors. May peace be on all the Prophets of Allah!

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